The ONE true God of the scriptures, YHWH, revealed Himself through ALL of His prophets and witnesses, in His 1600 year record of revelation to mankind, that His people have followed through two covenants for 3500 years. That record is well supported through a vast body of historical and archaeological evidence, that is consistent with the physical geography, is particularly supported by fulfilled prophecy and is even verifiable mathematically.

The historical record contained in scripture, and physical geographical matters of fact, are evermore confirmed by the continually expanding archaeological evidence, that indicates that Abraham's travels were in the opposite direction of where Mecca was eventually established in the 4th century AD.

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Specifically away from the harsh barren desolate Arabian desert, and within the "Fertile Crescent", where components essential to sustain human life were available - like water.

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Yet according to Islamic so-called "tradition" that was all penned in the 7th-10th centuries AD, that details thousands of years of pre-Muhammad history - that was created without reference to any actual historical record from before the 5th century AD - Adam was supposed to have built the Kaaba in Mecca and Abraham and Ishmael were supposed to have rebuilt the Kaaba!

(URL) Here is a typical Islamic account of Abraham, and his wife Sarah's Egyptian bondwoman Hagar, and Hagar's son Ishmael:

"Abraham took Hagar and her son, Ishmael to a place near the Kabah; he left them under a tree at the site of Zamzam. No one lived in Makkah back then, yet Abraham made them sit there, leaving them with some dates, and a small water-skin. Thereafter he set out towards home."

So Abraham abandoned Hagar and Ishmael in a place where there was no population, no food, no farming, no pasture, no water but that in a small water-skin and thus no chance for survival, and then set out towards home. Here's the account from scripture:

Genesis 21:14 And Abraham rose up early in the morning, and took bread, and a bottle of water, and gave [it] unto Hagar, putting [it] on her shoulder, and the child, and sent her away: and she departed, and wandered in the wilderness of Beersheba.

Muhammad's followers acknowledge that Abraham's home was in Hebron, where Isaac and Ishmael buried their father, whose tomb Muhammad's followers control and continue to desecrate unto this day. When we consider a map based on the physical evidence, we observe that Hebron is located just below Jerusalem, and Beersheba just below Hebron:

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From the map it should be painfully obvious that in order for the Islamic claim quoted above to be true, Abraham would have had to have abandoned his wife Sarah, and son Isaac in whom God made His covenant, to wander across more than 1200 kilometers of desert wasteland, over a thousand years before the historical record indicates there was an overland route established along the Red Sea in Arabia (around the 6th century BC). Yet Abraham was supposed to have casually....

"Abraham took Hagar and her son, Ishmael to a place near the Kabah; he left them under a tree at the site of Zamzam." "Thereafter he set out towards home."

.....wandered across 1200 kilometers of harsh, barren, unexplored, untraveled, uncharted, waterless desert, dropped Hagar and Ishmael off under a tree in an uninhabited place, and then wandered the 1200 kilometers back home. In other words, because of what can only be labeled as Islamic "tradition" - that was all created and put to the pen in the 7th to 10th centuries AD, that poses as thousands of years of pre-Muhammad history, that was pulled from thin air without reference to any actual historical record that precedes the 5th century AD - Muhammad's followers are expected to believe the scripture-contrary, history-devoid, archaeologically-unsupportable, reality-rejecting and physical geography-impossible account, offered by Islamic so-called "tradition".

A follower of Muhammad did come to the forum to present archaeological evidence from that same Saudi magazine, of even much earlier in ancient history (6th to 2nd century BC), but what it accomplished was to further confirm the geographical impossibility of Islamic so-called "tradition". The article reported that desertification of the Arabian Peninsula from North to South began thousands of years before Abraham, and was complete by his day. There is much more on the absence of a pre-4th century AD history of Mecca, and the actual origins of Islamic rituals and fiction of Islamic tradition, at That site also includes a webpage that explores such nonsense as the famous Greek-sophist styled entertainer Ahmed Deedat's suggestion, that the "Baca" of Psalms 84 is Mecca, along with a handful of other such preposterous presumptions proclaimed by some of Muhammad's followers.

As further confirmed:

Genesis 25:16 These are the sons of Ishmael, and these are their names, by their towns, and by their castles; twelve princes according to their nations.17 And these are the years of the life of Ishmael, an hundred and thirty and seven years: and he gave up the ghost and died; and was gathered unto his people. 18 And they dwelt from Havilah unto Shur, that is before Egypt, as thou goest toward Assyria: and he died in the presence of all his brethren.

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The Ishmaelites dwelt a thousand kilometers across harsh barren Arabian desert away, from where Mecca was eventually settled in the 4th century AD, a couple thousand years after Ishmael's day. The Ishmaelites lived in the "Fertile Crescent" where essentials for human existence were available - like water!

Map (prior to modification) attributed to the uploader at this link.

Thus ".....from Havilah unto thou goest toward Assyria....." or by way of Assyria. Likely not straight across, what we know today, as the Syrian desert in northern Arabia:

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Particularly since Ishmaelites were known for large flocks of sheep:

Isaiah 60:7 All the flocks of Kedar shall be gathered together unto thee, the rams of Nebaioth shall minister unto thee: they shall come up with acceptance on mine altar, and I will glorify the house of my glory.

How did Ishmael travel across 1200 kilometers of harsh, barren, unexplored, untraveled desert  from Mecca to Hebron - over a thousand years before a caravan route was established along the Red Sea - in time to join Isaac to bury their father Abraham? Why would Abraham have abandoned his wife Sarah - and son Isaac in whom God made His covenant - to wander across 1200 kilometers of barren desert with Sarah's handmaiden Hagar and her son Ishmael, to the place where Mecca wasn't even settled until well over a millennium later?

Indeed Islam's own tradition discloses who Muhammad credits the actual builders of the Kaaba to have been:

Sahih Muslim B7 #3078: 'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported: Allah's Messenger may peace be upon him) said to me: Had your people not been unbelievers in the recent past (had they not quite recently accepted Islam), I would have demolished the Ka'ba and would have rebuilt it on the foundation (laid) by Ibrahim; for when the Quraish had built the Ka'ba, they reduced its (area), and I would also have built (a door) in the rear.

In stark contrast, the epicenter of the anti-religion of Islam is Mecca, for which there is not a shred of historical or archaeological evidence, that suggests that Mecca ever existed before the 4th century AD. Please investigate this for yourself.
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Here's a Wikipedia article on Ancient Towns in Saudi Arabia. Mecca is not listed because there is no evidence whatsoever that suggests that Mecca is an ancient town. This even though other ancient Arabian towns are very well attested in the historical and archaeological records of Arabia.

It was one thing for illiterate 7th century SW Arabian desert dwellers to believe such preposterous unhistorical claims from within a vacuum of information, but how on earth can such scripture-contrary, archaeology-absent, geography-impossible and downright irrational Islamic beliefs continue, in this 21st century information age? The same as it has for 1400 years. Through censoring, threatening and killing the truth, with the Gospel restricted in 51 nations today. By murdering between 105,000 and 180,000 Christians around the world every year. Yet in spite of it all, according to Al-Jazeerah over six million Muslims begin a life in Jesus Christ every year, in Africa alone.

In Pakistan folks are subject to the death penalty for the "blasphemy" of pointing out how Muhammad is revealed through Islam's own books. Pakistan is pushing the U.N. to enact anti-blasphemy laws on a global scale, in order to censor and prevent folks from speaking truthfully about Muhammad. Ironically, since Pakistan's anti-blasphemy laws are supposed to apply to all religions this makes each and every Muslim in Pakistan, along with Muhammad himself, guilty of blasphemy against the God of the scriptures YHWH, as prophesied of the "beast".

Revelation 13:6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.

Also guilty of blasphemy against the Gospel for denying its whole subject, and guilty of blasphemy against Jesus Christ Himself because Muhammad's followers proclaim that He is not the Son of God, while they tragically must blaspheme His sin-atoning blood by denying it was shed, all as articles of faith in Muhammad alone. Thus Islam IS blasphemy all around, even blaspheming the name of the one true God of the Bible, YHWH.

Hebrews 10:29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?

John 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

John 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

Muhammad's followers stunning self-imposed blindness to historical reality, even as they freely admit that the only reason they kiss the Quraish pagan's black stone idol embedded in the Kaaba in Mecca, is because Muhammad did:

Bukhari Book #26, Hadith #667 Narrated 'Abis bin Rabia: 'Umar came near the Black stone and kissed it and said "No doubt, I know that you are a stone and can neither benefit anyone nor harm anyone. Had I not seen Allah's Apostle kissing you I would not have kissed you."

Yet somehow it doesn't seem to occur to them that this is the same reason they DISbelieve the WHOLE SUBJECT of the Gospel - the crucifixion of Christ - DENY the Son of God, and REJECT His shed blood, AS ARTICLES OF THEIR FAITH in Muhammad alone.

It is the same reason they prostrate themselves toward the Quraish pagan's black stone idol in Mecca five times a day, while praying in the "vain repetitions as the heathen do" as scripture describes it, in the names of the Arabian pagan's deity "Allah" and his "messenger" Muhammad.

The same reason they travel to the Kaaba, and march around it as the pagan Arabian moon, sun, star and jinn-devil worshipers did, before Muhammad was ever born. Same reason they compass Al-Safa and Al-Marwah as the Arabian jinn-devil worshipers did, even though their own books inform us that some of Muhammad's closest followers did not like to engage in the Sa'ee, because they knew it to be a pagan ritual of jinn-devil worship:

Narrated 'Asim: I asked Anas bin Malik: "Did you use to dislike to perform Tawaf between Safa and Marwa?" He said, "Yes, as it was of the ceremonies of the days of the Pre-lslamic period of ignorance, till Allah revealed: 'Verily! (The two mountains) As-Safa and Al-Marwa are among the symbols of Allah. It is therefore no sin for him who performs the pilgrimage to the Ka'ba, or performs 'Umra, to perform Tawaf between them.' " (2.158) (Sahih al-Bukhari 2 Book 26 710)

Again, in reality, the same reason: "till Allah (Muhammad alone) revealed". While stone fetishes and meteorite veneration were not unusual in Arabian paganism, idol veneration has always been prohibited behavior for Jews and Christians, by the one true God of the scriptures. Muhammad's followers do it for the same reason there have been over 21,000 deadly Islamic terror attacks around the world, just since 9-11. Because Muhammad's followers follow one of the most consummate - and conveniently self-admitted - terrorists in the history of mankind:

Sura 8:12 I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them  

Because they follow Muhammad alone.

Bukhari B78 #627 Narrated 'Aisha: The Prophet said, "o followers of muhammad!"

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